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Bearing Witness: Exposing the secretive world of the Jehovah's Witnesses
Bearing Witness: Exposing the secretive world of the Jehovah's Witnesses - Four Corners (abc.net.au)
Anna Marina
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Australian jw org responds to Govt. pressure to participate in sexual abuse redress scheme.
by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. inreported in the news today - let's hope victims are duly compensated for their suffering and the org is taken to the cleaners.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-10/jehovahs-witnesses-sign-up-to-sexual-abuse-redress-scheme/100449204.
cheeses - the wholly holey holy one..
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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Anna Marina
TD I joined in early 90s. Knew nothing of their past. Went through the Live Forever Book. Some teachings were compelling others bonkers. I questioned the bonkers bit big time. Sister studying with me started to agree with me, next 2 elders arrive on my study. I'm still asking my questions, they effectively lied to me but more in the way of being very clever by fudging things, appearing to answer questions but not doing so. They sought to gain my trust rather than reason with me.
"Look if you find anything better, tell us and we will all come with you." That's what one of these elders said.
I fell for their trick - I did not know any better.
Almost 27 years later I said to this same elder "I am certain that the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership is the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership." Then he said "you are irrational."
So you asked do they "believe people are judged based on their receptivity to a tangled, incoherent doctrinal mess that they can't even explain themselves" - I'd say yes. This elder flapped a magazine at me and told me he believed it was the truth cause the mags were translated into so many languages (not that one word was necessarily true).
You said: "When the basic message presented at their Memorial observance starts to fall apart, then so does their most basic claim about themselves and who they are." I say - yes. They are neither Christians nor Jehovah's Witnesses.
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unofficial JW music
by neat blue dog indoes anybody remember some super cheesy jw pop music from the 80s and/or 90s being sold on cassette by stoops?
i remember there was a family with the last name of arkenberg involved in production among others but i can't find a thing about it online..
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Anna Marina
Wow Dio - that Aposta Mix is brilliant.
FYI Elder with Bear is/was good friend of CO who df'd my friend Christine. Christine is in her 80s and was a faithful member of the cong who got df'd for just asking the elders about the child abuse issues.
I made a YouTube interviewing her and part way through describe what that CO did. The video is called the Disfellowshipping of Faithful Christine.
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Enduring watchtower study
by road to nowhere inmy studying consists of skimming the article.
this one starts with 2017 don't give up convention.
at the time i changed it to i give up.
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Anna Marina
One way pioneers used to make the WT study more interesting was by finding unusual words to put into their answers.
Songs could be made more bearable by leaving first letter off each word. Not that you have to sing anymore. Just mute your microphone.
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unofficial JW music
by neat blue dog indoes anybody remember some super cheesy jw pop music from the 80s and/or 90s being sold on cassette by stoops?
i remember there was a family with the last name of arkenberg involved in production among others but i can't find a thing about it online..
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Anna Marina
Slimboy - that hurt my ears!
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Anna Marina
LoveUni and Dio - I am practicing - thanks! It usually ends up as 'fluffle'. But I am really wanting to have a go at Maha's recipe and see if I can work out how you would make a punky potato version of it.
Smiddy - I have never heard of Zuccini slice - when I looked it up it looks great. So I will try to make a Zuccini slice. I have got a lot of courgettes (zuccinis) at the moment so it is perfect timing to have a go.
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unofficial JW music
by neat blue dog indoes anybody remember some super cheesy jw pop music from the 80s and/or 90s being sold on cassette by stoops?
i remember there was a family with the last name of arkenberg involved in production among others but i can't find a thing about it online..
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Anna Marina
Elder was lead singer - maybe still is both lead singer and elder - I don't know
Swans In Flight | ReverbNation
If you want to buy the album it is available on Amazon for £11:94
Swans in Flight: Amazon.co.uk: CDs & Vinyl
This debut album by rock duo Hugo Montgomery Swan and Mark Tucker showcases 16 songs performed using acoustic guitars in a setting rarely heard before.
He's had a race with Bear Grylls too.
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unofficial JW music
by neat blue dog indoes anybody remember some super cheesy jw pop music from the 80s and/or 90s being sold on cassette by stoops?
i remember there was a family with the last name of arkenberg involved in production among others but i can't find a thing about it online..
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Anna Marina
I think this Roger Dexter is an elder. Can anyone confirm?
Alan Bell & Roger Dexter - International Statement (Main Mix) - YouTube
NFLFM - CORPORATE IDENTITY by ALAN BELL, ROGER DEXTER (CHAP/FC) - YouTube
If he is an elder - here's his Christmas Jingles.
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unofficial JW music
by neat blue dog indoes anybody remember some super cheesy jw pop music from the 80s and/or 90s being sold on cassette by stoops?
i remember there was a family with the last name of arkenberg involved in production among others but i can't find a thing about it online..
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Anna Marina
This one is funny :)
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Unfaithful spouse
by Worstfear inmy wife and i have been together for 12 years.
married for 6. she was born into the truth, i studied for 2 years before we got married.
we would attend meetings on a weekly basis, go to conventions, and memorial every year.
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Anna Marina
Our one-time CoBE worked with lawyers doing family law. I don't know if he was involved in actual divorce work but another sister said he was. Be that as it may...
Long-term adultery took place in my ex-cong. Who do you think got thrown under the bus? The adulterer or the innocent party?
I watched the innocent party have a melt down in the KH as the CoBE said 'it's only your wife, it's only your wife.' He was telling the brother to stop making such a fuss.
So the brother, who had been in jail in the 70s for the sake of neutrality left the 'truth'. Maybe he had a complete mental breakdown. I don't know I was still a relative newbie at the time and knew little.
But telling the elders about adultery does not necessarily result in trouble for the adulterer.
Sorry to hear of your situation Worstfear. Must be unbearable for you. Take one day at a time. I find helping others is a great comfort, it keeps you busy and you find new friends. It is nice to see them smile and for you to find out that you mean a lot to others.
(Acts 20:35) . . .I have exhibited to you in all things that by thus laboring you must assist those who are weak, and must bear in mind the words of the Lord Jesus, when he himself said, ‘There is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving.’”